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[Ccsf-campus-staff] Meetup to discuss Website and curriculum

Veronica Ray veronica.l.ray at gmail.com
Mon Aug 11 03:53:35 UTC 2014 

I was on vacation/off email since last Thursday, otherwise would have
joined.


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Katherine Moloney <kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Tyler,
>
> Can you connect me to the Hangout via my kmgoogp at gmail.com account?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Katherine
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Katherine Moloney <kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Let's do 6:30pm.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Tyler B <tylerbrothers1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! he has missed quite a bit then.
>>>
>>> Im ok with 6 or 6:30 pm even, the earlier the better.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Tyler Brothers
>>>
>>> Phone: 925-998-9956
>>>
>>>    - www.linkedin.com/in/tylerbrothers/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Katherine Moloney <
>>> kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can we talk a little earlier, like 7pm or 6:30pm?
>>>>
>>>> And I was wrong earlier -- Kevin's email is not getting the
>>>> ccsf-campus-staff emails, there's bouncing back from his address for some
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Tyler B <tylerbrothers1 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Saturday at 8pm?
>>>>>
>>>>> I really like the level's idea as it allows people to meet people
>>>>> (smaller groups), learn together, and get better advice from mentors. I do
>>>>> want to be cautious about making sure no one feels "dumb" for being in the
>>>>> newbie group though, so thats something to keep in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Install fest and instructions online for those who cant attend the
>>>>> meeting is a must. As we iron out exactly what we want to teach, we can
>>>>> setup instructions online on how to get setup. Maybe we can coordinate with
>>>>> mentors on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to having the groups being based on familiarity with
>>>>> tools, I would like to see an opening presentation that touches on what
>>>>> open source is about and why it matters. The presentation could touch on
>>>>> different faucets of open source as well - legal aspects, open source vs.
>>>>> closed source, social impact, history of open source and why the tools are
>>>>> important to making open source contribution easy. The presentation would
>>>>> give something to everyone and serve as a nice framework for newbies, so
>>>>> they dont feel so lost and "why?".
>>>>>
>>>>> Did our previous schedule have any hiccups? (pasted here for
>>>>> convenience - from http://ccsf.openhatch.org/)
>>>>>
>>>>> 9:00am-9:30am:Coffee, juice, pastries, and getting to know each other
>>>>>> 9:30am-10:00am:irc session
>>>>>> 10:00am-11:00am:Communication Tools session
>>>>>> 11:00am-12:00pm:Career panel
>>>>>> 12:00pm-1:00pm:Lunch
>>>>>> 1:00pm-2:00pm:git/GitHub session
>>>>>> 2:00pm-6:00pm:Contributions demo/workshop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it had a totally different structure then what were talking
>>>>> about here, but were there any obvious issues with the how long speeches
>>>>> were or anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tyler Brothers
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: 925-998-9956
>>>>>
>>>>>    - www.linkedin.com/in/tylerbrothers/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Katherine Moloney <
>>>>> kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Minus private details (phone numbers, etc) let's communicate using
>>>>>> ccsf-campus-staff at lists.openhatch.org as we're all on it & to keep a
>>>>>> record for CCSF students running this event in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely need to finalize the curriculum/content/schedule.  Let's
>>>>>> pick a time on Saturday afternoon maybe or later tonight (Fri) like 9pm,
>>>>>> and do another Google Hangout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for changing the theme/layout of the website, that's something to
>>>>>> raise with Shauna & OpenHatch.   You can see that this is a standard
>>>>>> template:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://uiuc.openhatch.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...personally, I think our time is better spent innovating curriculum
>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, what about the idea of having the curriculum be a series
>>>>>> of self paced exercises instead of presenter-led lectures?  In this case,
>>>>>> students could just indicate when they need help or more information.  Then
>>>>>> mentors could be divided up within the room, and help just go to the
>>>>>> students when they indicate that they need help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could have students self-select their experience level, with
>>>>>> something similar to this:
>>>>>> http://www.bridgetroll.org/events/108/levels
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     + total new to open source, irc, version control
>>>>>>     + some experience with version control
>>>>>>     + some experience with version control & irc
>>>>>>     + comfortable installing/using open source, setting up my own
>>>>>> development environment
>>>>>>     + have contributed to open source projects before
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...in this case, we might have people sit in clusters around the room
>>>>>> based on their experience levels, that way when the mentors explain
>>>>>> something, they can be explaining to a cluster of students who might all
>>>>>> need the same question answered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, students could work the introductory curriculum even
>>>>>> before they show up to the workshop.  The last club meeting could be an
>>>>>> installfest (git, establish a GitHub account, practice with irc, etc) and a
>>>>>> work-through-the-basic-curriculum opportunity, so more students could dive
>>>>>> right into grokking the project they're interested in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** If there is any way that students can pick out projects ahead of
>>>>>> time & try to do the development environment setup ahead of time, that
>>>>>> would make a *big* difference, since we'll be all in the same room, taxing
>>>>>> the same wi-fi ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So anyone available to do a Google Hangout tonight around 9pm?  Or
>>>>>> tomorrow afternoon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Katherine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Tyler B <tylerbrothers1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have free time all day today and saturday to get some work
>>>>>>> organizing this. If everyone was available, I thought we could meetup to
>>>>>>> discuss how we are planning on tackling some questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specifically: Specifics on the website, specifics on any curriculum
>>>>>>> changes and what we can do for advanced and novice students alike and a
>>>>>>> shared calendar to organize the moving part.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the website - I would not mind tackling this. I saw how we did
>>>>>>> it last year and loved the content and ease of use. Im thinking of looking
>>>>>>> into if we can install Wordpress and then just use a simple one page theme
>>>>>>> to add some extra niceness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tyler Brothers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Veronica Ray
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Duke University '13
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