[Ccsf-campus-staff] Meetup to discuss Website and curriculum

[Katherine Moloney]

Hi Tyler,

Can you connect me to the Hangout via my kmgoogp at gmail.com account?

Thanks,

Katherine




On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Katherine Moloney <kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu>
wrote:

> Let's do 6:30pm.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Tyler B <tylerbrothers1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ha! he has missed quite a bit then.
>>
>> Im ok with 6 or 6:30 pm even, the earlier the better.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Tyler Brothers
>>
>> Phone: 925-998-9956
>>
>>    - www.linkedin.com/in/tylerbrothers/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Katherine Moloney <kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Can we talk a little earlier, like 7pm or 6:30pm?
>>>
>>> And I was wrong earlier -- Kevin's email is not getting the
>>> ccsf-campus-staff emails, there's bouncing back from his address for some
>>> reason.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Tyler B <tylerbrothers1 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Saturday at 8pm?
>>>>
>>>> I really like the level's idea as it allows people to meet people
>>>> (smaller groups), learn together, and get better advice from mentors. I do
>>>> want to be cautious about making sure no one feels "dumb" for being in the
>>>> newbie group though, so thats something to keep in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Install fest and instructions online for those who cant attend the
>>>> meeting is a must. As we iron out exactly what we want to teach, we can
>>>> setup instructions online on how to get setup. Maybe we can coordinate with
>>>> mentors on this.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to having the groups being based on familiarity with tools,
>>>> I would like to see an opening presentation that touches on what open
>>>> source is about and why it matters. The presentation could touch on
>>>> different faucets of open source as well - legal aspects, open source vs.
>>>> closed source, social impact, history of open source and why the tools are
>>>> important to making open source contribution easy. The presentation would
>>>> give something to everyone and serve as a nice framework for newbies, so
>>>> they dont feel so lost and "why?".
>>>>
>>>> Did our previous schedule have any hiccups? (pasted here for
>>>> convenience - from http://ccsf.openhatch.org/)
>>>>
>>>> 9:00am-9:30am:Coffee, juice, pastries, and getting to know each other
>>>>> 9:30am-10:00am:irc session
>>>>> 10:00am-11:00am:Communication Tools session
>>>>> 11:00am-12:00pm:Career panel
>>>>> 12:00pm-1:00pm:Lunch
>>>>> 1:00pm-2:00pm:git/GitHub session
>>>>> 2:00pm-6:00pm:Contributions demo/workshop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know it had a totally different structure then what were talking
>>>> about here, but were there any obvious issues with the how long speeches
>>>> were or anything?
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Tyler Brothers
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 925-998-9956
>>>>
>>>>    - www.linkedin.com/in/tylerbrothers/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Katherine Moloney <
>>>> kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Minus private details (phone numbers, etc) let's communicate using
>>>>> ccsf-campus-staff at lists.openhatch.org as we're all on it & to keep a
>>>>> record for CCSF students running this event in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely need to finalize the curriculum/content/schedule.  Let's
>>>>> pick a time on Saturday afternoon maybe or later tonight (Fri) like 9pm,
>>>>> and do another Google Hangout.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for changing the theme/layout of the website, that's something to
>>>>> raise with Shauna & OpenHatch.   You can see that this is a standard
>>>>> template:
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://uiuc.openhatch.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> ...personally, I think our time is better spent innovating curriculum
>>>>> structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, what about the idea of having the curriculum be a series
>>>>> of self paced exercises instead of presenter-led lectures?  In this case,
>>>>> students could just indicate when they need help or more information.  Then
>>>>> mentors could be divided up within the room, and help just go to the
>>>>> students when they indicate that they need help.
>>>>>
>>>>> We could have students self-select their experience level, with
>>>>> something similar to this:
>>>>> http://www.bridgetroll.org/events/108/levels
>>>>>
>>>>>     + total new to open source, irc, version control
>>>>>     + some experience with version control
>>>>>     + some experience with version control & irc
>>>>>     + comfortable installing/using open source, setting up my own
>>>>> development environment
>>>>>     + have contributed to open source projects before
>>>>>
>>>>> ...in this case, we might have people sit in clusters around the room
>>>>> based on their experience levels, that way when the mentors explain
>>>>> something, they can be explaining to a cluster of students who might all
>>>>> need the same question answered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, students could work the introductory curriculum even
>>>>> before they show up to the workshop.  The last club meeting could be an
>>>>> installfest (git, establish a GitHub account, practice with irc, etc) and a
>>>>> work-through-the-basic-curriculum opportunity, so more students could dive
>>>>> right into grokking the project they're interested in.
>>>>>
>>>>> *** If there is any way that students can pick out projects ahead of
>>>>> time & try to do the development environment setup ahead of time, that
>>>>> would make a *big* difference, since we'll be all in the same room, taxing
>>>>> the same wi-fi ***
>>>>>
>>>>> So anyone available to do a Google Hangout tonight around 9pm?  Or
>>>>> tomorrow afternoon?
>>>>>
>>>>> Katherine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Tyler B <tylerbrothers1 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have free time all day today and saturday to get some work
>>>>>> organizing this. If everyone was available, I thought we could meetup to
>>>>>> discuss how we are planning on tackling some questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specifically: Specifics on the website, specifics on any curriculum
>>>>>> changes and what we can do for advanced and novice students alike and a
>>>>>> shared calendar to organize the moving part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the website - I would not mind tackling this. I saw how we did it
>>>>>> last year and loved the content and ease of use. Im thinking of looking
>>>>>> into if we can install Wordpress and then just use a simple one page theme
>>>>>> to add some extra niceness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tyler Brothers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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