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[Campus-princeton-staff] mentoring details?

Peter Wolanin pwolanin at gmail.com
Fri Nov 21 14:04:14 UTC 2014 

Yes, simplytest.me wasn't working right last night when I tried, so DD
is probably the better bet now.

-Peter

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Lisha Ruan <lruan at princeton.edu> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> For now, I've instructed students to install DevDesktop on the page about
> contributing to Drupal. Let me know if you want me to change that.
>
> Also, thanks for sharing the great video! I've sent it to all the students.
>
> Best,
> Lisha
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Lisha Ruan <lruan at princeton.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Should I tell students to install DevDesktop or to use simplytest.me? (I
>> think it's easier if I just give them one set of instructions.)
>>
>> Best,
>> Lisha
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Lisha Ruan <lruan at princeton.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Thanks for reaching out, and sorry for the delay in sending out mentoring
>>> information. I'll send out the information about how to get set up for
>>> Drupal to the students. There's no specific code editor that we tell
>>> students to install; they can use any they have. Thanks for being willing to
>>> give the presentation! Would you possibly also be able to give the
>>> presentation on communication tools? But if you'd rather not do it, I can
>>> wait to see if other mentors are willing to give it.
>>>
>>> I'm about to send out an email to all mentors with mentoring information.
>>> The email asks for responses to some questions, but you don't have to reply
>>> to them because you've already answered them for Drupal. :) Thanks!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lisha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Again, opening their drupal.org accounts in advance would be very
>>>> helpful - I can give them the "not a spammer" role, so they don't have
>>>> their initial posting throttled.
>>>>
>>>> Also, watching about 10 minutes of this video from 12:20 would be great:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqH9WZLOyg4&t=12m20s
>>>>
>>>> All this for whatever subset of participants want to work on learning
>>>> contributing to Drupal for the workshop.
>>>>
>>>> -Peter
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > an an alternative to setting up the AMP stack locally, students can
>>>> > register and *login* to simplytest.me
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> I'm not dying to do the presentations, but I could do "what is open
>>>> >> source?" if no one else is available - I did something related for a
>>>> >> conference:
>>>> >> http://london2011.drupal.org/conference/sessions/free-software-and-you
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Happy to help with the git section, if I'm are going to be there
>>>> >> anyhow.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I could talk about careers - if nothing else about myself and others
>>>> >> leveraging it for career path changes.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It would be ideal if people working with us in the contribution
>>>> >> workshop installed DevDesktop in advance and create an account on
>>>> >> https://www.drupal.org .  Chris is too modest since he's done more of
>>>> >> the formal mentoring than me - but I think parts are already covered
>>>> >> by the earlier section including installing git and an IRC client.
>>>> >> Is
>>>> >> there a text/code editor you have them install?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We will come with some suggested tasks, and will help them set up the
>>>> >> AMP stack if they didn't do it in advance (but it's a bit of a time
>>>> >> suck).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Peter
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>>>> >> <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> Do either of you or Chris want to present either "what is open
>>>> >>> source?" or
>>>> >>> "intro to open source communications tools?"  If no, then you don't
>>>> >>> need to
>>>> >>> do anything to prepare.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> With regard to the git section, it would be great if you could lead
>>>> >>> a small
>>>> >>> group.  Are you interested in doing so?  To prepare for that, I
>>>> >>> would look
>>>> >>> through the student guide and see if you have any questions about
>>>> >>> how the
>>>> >>> activity works.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Are you interested in talking about open source careers?  If yes,
>>>> >>> you don't
>>>> >>> need to prepare anything specific, but it might be useful to think
>>>> >>> about how
>>>> >>> you'd describe what you do and the options that students have.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> For the contributions workshop, you'll want to come up with a plan
>>>> >>> for how
>>>> >>> to get students set up with the project.  Will you be willing to
>>>> >>> help
>>>> >>> students get an AMP stack set up on their computers, or should they
>>>> >>> come
>>>> >>> prepared with that?  Is there anything else they will need to
>>>> >>> contribute?
>>>> >>> Then, if you could identify some tasks for them to work on.  They
>>>> >>> don't need
>>>> >>> to be tasks that students can finish at the event - students are
>>>> >>> just
>>>> >>> learning, and the workshop is only a few hours long - but it should
>>>> >>> be
>>>> >>> something comprehensible to them, where they can make some progress.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Ok, I actually got roughly that much originally:
>>>> >>>> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dbc53708/
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> however, I'm not sure if e.g. Chris or I should be prepared to do
>>>> >>>> anything for the morning presentations?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Got learning git it sounded as though mentors might interact with
>>>> >>>> smaller groups to help them?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> For people Chris and I would mentor in terms of Drupal
>>>> >>>> contributions,
>>>> >>>> they'll want an AMP stack set up on their computer in addition to
>>>> >>>> git,
>>>> >>>> e.g. DevDesktop is probably the easiest option:
>>>> >>>> https://www.acquia.com/downloads
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Though you can possibly do it on Mac via OS-native packages,
>>>> >>>> howbrew,
>>>> >>>> MAMP or on PC via XAMPP, or on linux via OS packages.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> -Peter
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>>>> >>>> <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> > I don't know the exact details - that's up for OSAP to decide -
>>>> >>>> > but I
>>>> >>>> > can
>>>> >>>> > tell you the broader outlines of the event.  My apologies for the
>>>> >>>> > delay
>>>> >>>> > here, I should have shared this information earlier.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > The event will be structured with tutorials in the morning, a
>>>> >>>> > career
>>>> >>>> > panel
>>>> >>>> > at mid-day, and a contributions workshop in the afternoon.  What
>>>> >>>> > does
>>>> >>>> > that
>>>> >>>> > mean?  Well, when students arrive, they will do approximately
>>>> >>>> > these
>>>> >>>> > things:
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > - Get their laptops set up.
>>>> >>>> > - Learn what open source is.
>>>> >>>> > - Learn about open source communications tools.
>>>> >>>> > - Learn to use git/github.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > Laptop setup is self-guided, while the "What is open source?" and
>>>> >>>> > "Open
>>>> >>>> > source communications tools" presentations can be self-guided,
>>>> >>>> > but we
>>>> >>>> > usually look for mentors to present those.  They're very
>>>> >>>> > interactive,
>>>> >>>> > and
>>>> >>>> > communications tools involves things like setting up IRC, etc.
>>>> >>>> > If
>>>> >>>> > you're
>>>> >>>> > interested in presenting either of those presentations, that
>>>> >>>> > would be
>>>> >>>> > great.
>>>> >>>> > Otherwise, you'd be a "floating" mentor, helping students as
>>>> >>>> > needed.
>>>> >>>> > The
>>>> >>>> > learn to use git/github activity, if possible, involves small
>>>> >>>> > groups of
>>>> >>>> > students with a mentor leading them through the process of
>>>> >>>> > editing a toy
>>>> >>>> > project website on github.  If you'd like to lead a small group,
>>>> >>>> > that'd
>>>> >>>> > be
>>>> >>>> > great too.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > The career panel is usually half an hour of talking about your
>>>> >>>> > experiences
>>>> >>>> > in open source.  One thing that we've taken to doing, which gets
>>>> >>>> > pretty
>>>> >>>> > rave
>>>> >>>> > reviews, is having "career musical chairs" where students again
>>>> >>>> > divide
>>>> >>>> > into
>>>> >>>> > small groups and career panelists rotate between them, about 7-10
>>>> >>>> > minutes
>>>> >>>> > each.  We've found that this encourages students to ask more
>>>> >>>> > questions,
>>>> >>>> > as
>>>> >>>> > they can be shy in a larger group.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > The contributions workshop is a change of pace.  Students work
>>>> >>>> > with
>>>> >>>> > mentors
>>>> >>>> > to contribute to particular projects.  Mentors can do a few
>>>> >>>> > things here.
>>>> >>>> > They can help students contribute to their own projects, they can
>>>> >>>> > help
>>>> >>>> > students contribute to one of our recommended projects or learn
>>>> >>>> > one of
>>>> >>>> > our
>>>> >>>> > "newcomer skills", or they can float and help people getting
>>>> >>>> > stuck.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > There are links to all of the above here, with more explanations
>>>> >>>> > and the
>>>> >>>> > actual activity material:
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > https://openhatch.org/wiki/Open_Source_Comes_to_Campus/Training/Short_Explanations
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > Let me know if you have any questions, and again, my apologies
>>>> >>>> > for the
>>>> >>>> > delay
>>>> >>>> > in getting these explanations to you.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Peter Wolanin
>>>> >>>> > <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> I haven't gotten any details about the Saturday schedule, or
>>>> >>>> >> exactly
>>>> >>>> >> what I should be planning to do as a mentor for this event on
>>>> >>>> >> the 22nd
>>>> >>>> >> - was I supposed to get something already?
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> -Peter
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