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[Campus-princeton-staff] mentoring details?

Lisha Ruan lruan at princeton.edu
Fri Nov 21 08:47:49 UTC 2014


Hi Peter,

For now, I've instructed students to install DevDesktop on the page about
contributing to Drupal. Let me know if you want me to change that.

Also, thanks for sharing the great video! I've sent it to all the students.

Best,
Lisha

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Lisha Ruan <lruan at princeton.edu> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> Should I tell students to install DevDesktop or to use simplytest.me? (I
> think it's easier if I just give them one set of instructions.)
>
> Best,
> Lisha
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Lisha Ruan <lruan at princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thanks for reaching out, and sorry for the delay in sending out mentoring
>> information. I'll send out the information about how to get set up for
>> Drupal to the students. There's no specific code editor that we tell
>> students to install; they can use any they have. Thanks for being willing
>> to give the presentation! Would you possibly also be able to give the
>> presentation on communication tools? But if you'd rather not do it, I can
>> wait to see if other mentors are willing to give it.
>>
>> I'm about to send out an email to all mentors with mentoring information.
>> The email asks for responses to some questions, but you don't have to reply
>> to them because you've already answered them for Drupal. :) Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>> Lisha
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Again, opening their drupal.org accounts in advance would be very
>>> helpful - I can give them the "not a spammer" role, so they don't have
>>> their initial posting throttled.
>>>
>>> Also, watching about 10 minutes of this video from 12:20 would be great:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqH9WZLOyg4&t=12m20s
>>>
>>> All this for whatever subset of participants want to work on learning
>>> contributing to Drupal for the workshop.
>>>
>>> -Peter
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > an an alternative to setting up the AMP stack locally, students can
>>> > register and *login* to simplytest.me
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> I'm not dying to do the presentations, but I could do "what is open
>>> >> source?" if no one else is available - I did something related for a
>>> >> conference:
>>> http://london2011.drupal.org/conference/sessions/free-software-and-you
>>> >>
>>> >> Happy to help with the git section, if I'm are going to be there
>>> anyhow.
>>> >>
>>> >> I could talk about careers - if nothing else about myself and others
>>> >> leveraging it for career path changes.
>>> >>
>>> >> It would be ideal if people working with us in the contribution
>>> >> workshop installed DevDesktop in advance and create an account on
>>> >> https://www.drupal.org .  Chris is too modest since he's done more of
>>> >> the formal mentoring than me - but I think parts are already covered
>>> >> by the earlier section including installing git and an IRC client.  Is
>>> >> there a text/code editor you have them install?
>>> >>
>>> >> We will come with some suggested tasks, and will help them set up the
>>> >> AMP stack if they didn't do it in advance (but it's a bit of a time
>>> >> suck).
>>> >>
>>> >> -Peter
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>>> >> <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Do either of you or Chris want to present either "what is open
>>> source?" or
>>> >>> "intro to open source communications tools?"  If no, then you don't
>>> need to
>>> >>> do anything to prepare.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> With regard to the git section, it would be great if you could lead
>>> a small
>>> >>> group.  Are you interested in doing so?  To prepare for that, I
>>> would look
>>> >>> through the student guide and see if you have any questions about
>>> how the
>>> >>> activity works.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Are you interested in talking about open source careers?  If yes,
>>> you don't
>>> >>> need to prepare anything specific, but it might be useful to think
>>> about how
>>> >>> you'd describe what you do and the options that students have.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For the contributions workshop, you'll want to come up with a plan
>>> for how
>>> >>> to get students set up with the project.  Will you be willing to help
>>> >>> students get an AMP stack set up on their computers, or should they
>>> come
>>> >>> prepared with that?  Is there anything else they will need to
>>> contribute?
>>> >>> Then, if you could identify some tasks for them to work on.  They
>>> don't need
>>> >>> to be tasks that students can finish at the event - students are just
>>> >>> learning, and the workshop is only a few hours long - but it should
>>> be
>>> >>> something comprehensible to them, where they can make some progress.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Ok, I actually got roughly that much originally:
>>> >>>> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dbc53708/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> however, I'm not sure if e.g. Chris or I should be prepared to do
>>> >>>> anything for the morning presentations?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Got learning git it sounded as though mentors might interact with
>>> >>>> smaller groups to help them?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> For people Chris and I would mentor in terms of Drupal
>>> contributions,
>>> >>>> they'll want an AMP stack set up on their computer in addition to
>>> git,
>>> >>>> e.g. DevDesktop is probably the easiest option:
>>> >>>> https://www.acquia.com/downloads
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Though you can possibly do it on Mac via OS-native packages,
>>> howbrew,
>>> >>>> MAMP or on PC via XAMPP, or on linux via OS packages.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -Peter
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>>> >>>> <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> > I don't know the exact details - that's up for OSAP to decide -
>>> but I
>>> >>>> > can
>>> >>>> > tell you the broader outlines of the event.  My apologies for the
>>> delay
>>> >>>> > here, I should have shared this information earlier.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The event will be structured with tutorials in the morning, a
>>> career
>>> >>>> > panel
>>> >>>> > at mid-day, and a contributions workshop in the afternoon.  What
>>> does
>>> >>>> > that
>>> >>>> > mean?  Well, when students arrive, they will do approximately
>>> these
>>> >>>> > things:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > - Get their laptops set up.
>>> >>>> > - Learn what open source is.
>>> >>>> > - Learn about open source communications tools.
>>> >>>> > - Learn to use git/github.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Laptop setup is self-guided, while the "What is open source?" and
>>> "Open
>>> >>>> > source communications tools" presentations can be self-guided,
>>> but we
>>> >>>> > usually look for mentors to present those.  They're very
>>> interactive,
>>> >>>> > and
>>> >>>> > communications tools involves things like setting up IRC, etc.  If
>>> >>>> > you're
>>> >>>> > interested in presenting either of those presentations, that
>>> would be
>>> >>>> > great.
>>> >>>> > Otherwise, you'd be a "floating" mentor, helping students as
>>> needed.
>>> >>>> > The
>>> >>>> > learn to use git/github activity, if possible, involves small
>>> groups of
>>> >>>> > students with a mentor leading them through the process of
>>> editing a toy
>>> >>>> > project website on github.  If you'd like to lead a small group,
>>> that'd
>>> >>>> > be
>>> >>>> > great too.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The career panel is usually half an hour of talking about your
>>> >>>> > experiences
>>> >>>> > in open source.  One thing that we've taken to doing, which gets
>>> pretty
>>> >>>> > rave
>>> >>>> > reviews, is having "career musical chairs" where students again
>>> divide
>>> >>>> > into
>>> >>>> > small groups and career panelists rotate between them, about 7-10
>>> >>>> > minutes
>>> >>>> > each.  We've found that this encourages students to ask more
>>> questions,
>>> >>>> > as
>>> >>>> > they can be shy in a larger group.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The contributions workshop is a change of pace.  Students work
>>> with
>>> >>>> > mentors
>>> >>>> > to contribute to particular projects.  Mentors can do a few
>>> things here.
>>> >>>> > They can help students contribute to their own projects, they can
>>> help
>>> >>>> > students contribute to one of our recommended projects or learn
>>> one of
>>> >>>> > our
>>> >>>> > "newcomer skills", or they can float and help people getting
>>> stuck.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > There are links to all of the above here, with more explanations
>>> and the
>>> >>>> > actual activity material:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> https://openhatch.org/wiki/Open_Source_Comes_to_Campus/Training/Short_Explanations
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Let me know if you have any questions, and again, my apologies
>>> for the
>>> >>>> > delay
>>> >>>> > in getting these explanations to you.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Peter Wolanin <
>>> pwolanin at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> I haven't gotten any details about the Saturday schedule, or
>>> exactly
>>> >>>> >> what I should be planning to do as a mentor for this event on
>>> the 22nd
>>> >>>> >> - was I supposed to get something already?
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >> -Peter
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