[Campus-princeton-staff] mentoring details?
Lisha Ruan
lruan at princeton.edu
Fri Nov 21 05:31:57 UTC 2014
Hi Peter,
Should I tell students to install DevDesktop or to use simplytest.me? (I
think it's easier if I just give them one set of instructions.)
Best,
Lisha
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Lisha Ruan <lruan at princeton.edu> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks for reaching out, and sorry for the delay in sending out mentoring
> information. I'll send out the information about how to get set up for
> Drupal to the students. There's no specific code editor that we tell
> students to install; they can use any they have. Thanks for being willing
> to give the presentation! Would you possibly also be able to give the
> presentation on communication tools? But if you'd rather not do it, I can
> wait to see if other mentors are willing to give it.
>
> I'm about to send out an email to all mentors with mentoring information.
> The email asks for responses to some questions, but you don't have to reply
> to them because you've already answered them for Drupal. :) Thanks!
>
> Best,
> Lisha
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Again, opening their drupal.org accounts in advance would be very
>> helpful - I can give them the "not a spammer" role, so they don't have
>> their initial posting throttled.
>>
>> Also, watching about 10 minutes of this video from 12:20 would be great:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqH9WZLOyg4&t=12m20s
>>
>> All this for whatever subset of participants want to work on learning
>> contributing to Drupal for the workshop.
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > an an alternative to setting up the AMP stack locally, students can
>> > register and *login* to simplytest.me
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I'm not dying to do the presentations, but I could do "what is open
>> >> source?" if no one else is available - I did something related for a
>> >> conference:
>> http://london2011.drupal.org/conference/sessions/free-software-and-you
>> >>
>> >> Happy to help with the git section, if I'm are going to be there
>> anyhow.
>> >>
>> >> I could talk about careers - if nothing else about myself and others
>> >> leveraging it for career path changes.
>> >>
>> >> It would be ideal if people working with us in the contribution
>> >> workshop installed DevDesktop in advance and create an account on
>> >> https://www.drupal.org . Chris is too modest since he's done more of
>> >> the formal mentoring than me - but I think parts are already covered
>> >> by the earlier section including installing git and an IRC client. Is
>> >> there a text/code editor you have them install?
>> >>
>> >> We will come with some suggested tasks, and will help them set up the
>> >> AMP stack if they didn't do it in advance (but it's a bit of a time
>> >> suck).
>> >>
>> >> -Peter
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>> >> <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Do either of you or Chris want to present either "what is open
>> source?" or
>> >>> "intro to open source communications tools?" If no, then you don't
>> need to
>> >>> do anything to prepare.
>> >>>
>> >>> With regard to the git section, it would be great if you could lead a
>> small
>> >>> group. Are you interested in doing so? To prepare for that, I would
>> look
>> >>> through the student guide and see if you have any questions about how
>> the
>> >>> activity works.
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you interested in talking about open source careers? If yes, you
>> don't
>> >>> need to prepare anything specific, but it might be useful to think
>> about how
>> >>> you'd describe what you do and the options that students have.
>> >>>
>> >>> For the contributions workshop, you'll want to come up with a plan
>> for how
>> >>> to get students set up with the project. Will you be willing to help
>> >>> students get an AMP stack set up on their computers, or should they
>> come
>> >>> prepared with that? Is there anything else they will need to
>> contribute?
>> >>> Then, if you could identify some tasks for them to work on. They
>> don't need
>> >>> to be tasks that students can finish at the event - students are just
>> >>> learning, and the workshop is only a few hours long - but it should be
>> >>> something comprehensible to them, where they can make some progress.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok, I actually got roughly that much originally:
>> >>>> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dbc53708/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> however, I'm not sure if e.g. Chris or I should be prepared to do
>> >>>> anything for the morning presentations?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Got learning git it sounded as though mentors might interact with
>> >>>> smaller groups to help them?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For people Chris and I would mentor in terms of Drupal contributions,
>> >>>> they'll want an AMP stack set up on their computer in addition to
>> git,
>> >>>> e.g. DevDesktop is probably the easiest option:
>> >>>> https://www.acquia.com/downloads
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Though you can possibly do it on Mac via OS-native packages, howbrew,
>> >>>> MAMP or on PC via XAMPP, or on linux via OS packages.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Peter
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon
>> >>>> <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > I don't know the exact details - that's up for OSAP to decide -
>> but I
>> >>>> > can
>> >>>> > tell you the broader outlines of the event. My apologies for the
>> delay
>> >>>> > here, I should have shared this information earlier.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The event will be structured with tutorials in the morning, a
>> career
>> >>>> > panel
>> >>>> > at mid-day, and a contributions workshop in the afternoon. What
>> does
>> >>>> > that
>> >>>> > mean? Well, when students arrive, they will do approximately these
>> >>>> > things:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > - Get their laptops set up.
>> >>>> > - Learn what open source is.
>> >>>> > - Learn about open source communications tools.
>> >>>> > - Learn to use git/github.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Laptop setup is self-guided, while the "What is open source?" and
>> "Open
>> >>>> > source communications tools" presentations can be self-guided, but
>> we
>> >>>> > usually look for mentors to present those. They're very
>> interactive,
>> >>>> > and
>> >>>> > communications tools involves things like setting up IRC, etc. If
>> >>>> > you're
>> >>>> > interested in presenting either of those presentations, that would
>> be
>> >>>> > great.
>> >>>> > Otherwise, you'd be a "floating" mentor, helping students as
>> needed.
>> >>>> > The
>> >>>> > learn to use git/github activity, if possible, involves small
>> groups of
>> >>>> > students with a mentor leading them through the process of editing
>> a toy
>> >>>> > project website on github. If you'd like to lead a small group,
>> that'd
>> >>>> > be
>> >>>> > great too.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The career panel is usually half an hour of talking about your
>> >>>> > experiences
>> >>>> > in open source. One thing that we've taken to doing, which gets
>> pretty
>> >>>> > rave
>> >>>> > reviews, is having "career musical chairs" where students again
>> divide
>> >>>> > into
>> >>>> > small groups and career panelists rotate between them, about 7-10
>> >>>> > minutes
>> >>>> > each. We've found that this encourages students to ask more
>> questions,
>> >>>> > as
>> >>>> > they can be shy in a larger group.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The contributions workshop is a change of pace. Students work with
>> >>>> > mentors
>> >>>> > to contribute to particular projects. Mentors can do a few things
>> here.
>> >>>> > They can help students contribute to their own projects, they can
>> help
>> >>>> > students contribute to one of our recommended projects or learn
>> one of
>> >>>> > our
>> >>>> > "newcomer skills", or they can float and help people getting stuck.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > There are links to all of the above here, with more explanations
>> and the
>> >>>> > actual activity material:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> https://openhatch.org/wiki/Open_Source_Comes_to_Campus/Training/Short_Explanations
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Let me know if you have any questions, and again, my apologies for
>> the
>> >>>> > delay
>> >>>> > in getting these explanations to you.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Peter Wolanin <pwolanin at gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I haven't gotten any details about the Saturday schedule, or
>> exactly
>> >>>> >> what I should be planning to do as a mentor for this event on the
>> 22nd
>> >>>> >> - was I supposed to get something already?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> -Peter
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