[Pdxpw-staff] notes on editor choice

[Barbara Shaurette]

I'd be happy to whip something up for OS X.

- Barb


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Michelle Rowley <mrowley at gmail.com> wrote:
> I appreciated all the thoughtful responses to Kevin's original thoughtful post about editor choice for workshops. I agree that we should try something different for the next workshop.
>
> I think Sublime Text 2 seems like a good choice, defaulting back to Notepad or TextEdit for systems that don't support it. It's got the dual benefits of being easy to use *and* having a following of actual developers who use it.
>
> Anyone able to volunteer to write a rough draft of install steps for one or more operating systems? We can test them at hack night next week!
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> Thanks guys,
> Michelle
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> On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Amy K. Farrell wrote:
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>> I don't have an opinion about any of these editors on their merits, as
>> the only ones (on Kevin's list) that I've used are emacs and vi[m]. I
>> agree that they aren't good choices for this purpose.
>>
>> I did notice that Sublime Text 2 for Mac OS X requires OS X 10.6 or
>> 10.7. We did have some students with older versions of Mac OS X, didn't
>> we? I don't think that's necessarily a strike against it; just something
>> to be aware of. We might list "supported configurations" (primarily OS
>> and version) for the class and encourage people to contact us if they
>> have something different.
>>
>> I like the idea of getting a "site license" for classes, even though the
>> evaluation license would probably suffice. I doubt that such a license
>> would cover users once they left the class (maybe it would be
>> time-limited?), but the single-user license fee doesn't strike me as
>> unreasonable for someone who gets into programming and decides she
>> really likes the editor.
>>
>> - Amy
>>
>> On 07/08/2012 11:15 AM, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
>>> Re: licensing costs -- this is the type of thing that we could
>>> fundraise for, IMO. Given that we're also engaging in a non-profit
>>> endeavor, with some careful maneuvering I'll bet that we could get a
>>> substantial discount for a "site license" for the tool.
>>>
>>> I know one issue in the past has been a desire for using FOSS tools.
>>> But our use of CodingBat sort of throws all that out the window, IMO.
>>>
>>> Let's use the best tool for the job! :)
>>>
>>> -selena
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Emily Strickland <emily at zubon.org> wrote:
>>>> I was just reading this post and the comments espousing IDLE. I hope it's
>>>> fine if I continue the discussion in this thread among us staffers.
>>>>
>>>> I hate IDLE. I cannot imagine any dev candidate where I work saying they use
>>>> or ever used IDLE. Probably the reason for my especial hate was, when my
>>>> friend Shawna was picking up Python, IDLE threw her for a loop. It has a
>>>> quite unintuitive interface. I had to actually show her (in a menu) how to
>>>> get to an editor rather than an interactive console.
>>>>
>>>> I feel Sublime Text 2 is the best bet. Yes, it costs, but it seriously
>>>> *only* nags occasionally, in perpetuity (I still haven't paid for it), and
>>>> it's amazing and a respectable, beautiful tool that works identically
>>>> cross-platform.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be interested in hearing reasons we shouldn't recommend this awesome
>>>> tool. It comes even with the cachet of being used by *real devs*. We're not
>>>> just suggesting a text editor in recommending Sublime; we're passing along a
>>>> part of dev culture.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 5 July 2012 at 21:07 , Kevin Turner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wrote down some of our concerns about Python editors, and some
>>>> evaluation of the options available: http://goo.gl/SQ6Hk
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