[Pdxpw-staff] notes on editor choice
Amy K. Farrell
amykfarrell at gmail.com
Mon Jul 9 19:11:34 UTC 2012
I don't have an opinion about any of these editors on their merits, as
the only ones (on Kevin's list) that I've used are emacs and vi[m]. I
agree that they aren't good choices for this purpose.
I did notice that Sublime Text 2 for Mac OS X requires OS X 10.6 or
10.7. We did have some students with older versions of Mac OS X, didn't
we? I don't think that's necessarily a strike against it; just something
to be aware of. We might list "supported configurations" (primarily OS
and version) for the class and encourage people to contact us if they
have something different.
I like the idea of getting a "site license" for classes, even though the
evaluation license would probably suffice. I doubt that such a license
would cover users once they left the class (maybe it would be
time-limited?), but the single-user license fee doesn't strike me as
unreasonable for someone who gets into programming and decides she
really likes the editor.
- Amy
On 07/08/2012 11:15 AM, Selena Deckelmann wrote:
> Re: licensing costs -- this is the type of thing that we could
> fundraise for, IMO. Given that we're also engaging in a non-profit
> endeavor, with some careful maneuvering I'll bet that we could get a
> substantial discount for a "site license" for the tool.
>
> I know one issue in the past has been a desire for using FOSS tools.
> But our use of CodingBat sort of throws all that out the window, IMO.
>
> Let's use the best tool for the job! :)
>
> -selena
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Emily Strickland <emily at zubon.org> wrote:
>> I was just reading this post and the comments espousing IDLE. I hope it's
>> fine if I continue the discussion in this thread among us staffers.
>>
>> I hate IDLE. I cannot imagine any dev candidate where I work saying they use
>> or ever used IDLE. Probably the reason for my especial hate was, when my
>> friend Shawna was picking up Python, IDLE threw her for a loop. It has a
>> quite unintuitive interface. I had to actually show her (in a menu) how to
>> get to an editor rather than an interactive console.
>>
>> I feel Sublime Text 2 is the best bet. Yes, it costs, but it seriously
>> *only* nags occasionally, in perpetuity (I still haven't paid for it), and
>> it's amazing and a respectable, beautiful tool that works identically
>> cross-platform.
>>
>> I'd be interested in hearing reasons we shouldn't recommend this awesome
>> tool. It comes even with the cachet of being used by *real devs*. We're not
>> just suggesting a text editor in recommending Sublime; we're passing along a
>> part of dev culture.
>>
>> On Thursday, 5 July 2012 at 21:07 , Kevin Turner wrote:
>>
>> I wrote down some of our concerns about Python editors, and some
>> evaluation of the options available: http://goo.gl/SQ6Hk
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