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[Campus-hartnell-staff] planning another Open Source Comes to Campus event for the fall

Shauna Gordon-McKeon shaunagm at gmail.com
Tue Sep 9 21:09:17 UTC 2014 

Are there any restrictions on when the two full Saturdays can be?  Should
they be at the beginning and end of the course, for instance?  This affects
whether I personally could teach it - I live on the other side of the
country and could probably not make two separate trips out.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Sathya Narayanan <snarayanan at csumb.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks Katie!
>
> Hi Shauna,
>
> Thank you for considering our request. Katie explained the motivation for
> the 1-unit course pretty well - to add my 2 cents, we think the content,
> ideas and skills communicated at the OpenHatch workshop is very valuable.
> We hope that adding the structure of a course to it will encourage/require
> more of our students to actively engage in the topic. If we do this well,
> it will be easy to offer it in future years with institutional support and
> at that point it will easier to duplicate it in other institutions.
>
> Now to your question: we totally understand the workload challenges and
> will work with you to accommodate your situation. I would think the
> following actions will be needed to offer such a course (we will be happy
> to help you in all of these steps).
>
>    1. Create a syllabus (sample syllabus here
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1loeavQABcBTUwkvxlq7k4DFYRkcU5vwqs7f-oBnn9eQ/edit?usp=sharing>)
>    and associated schedule (here
>    <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16YxypqN6FLVkgPRi1W3BmXOa-9YLsMCx_9E0W29e6uw/edit#gid=0>
>    )
>    2. Prep for the in class presentations/activities
>    3. Create assignments/projects - number of assignments/project is up
>    to you within the constraints of student learning and time commitment (up
>    to 24 hours of work outside the class for the students)
>    4. Teach/coach first session
>    5. Maintain some office hours (~2hrs/week) online (GHO or Skype) to be
>    able to answer questions - we will have a TA available locally to take care
>    quick/easier questions
>    6. Respond to email questions from students
>    7. Grade assignments if any - depending on the learning objectives,
>    type of assignments - this effort could vary - we can get TA support for
>    this. Or, it is also possible to setup the course as Pass/Fail rather than
>    letter grades - to reduce the granularity of grading
>    8. Teach/coach second session
>    9. More office hours to support project work
>    10. Final grading
>    11. Enter grades
>
> I apologize for the long email - wanted to provide a comprehensive
> picture. There is reasonable amount of flexibility in how the course is
> structured. I am leaving out a bit of a paperwork to apply and get hired as
> a lecturer at CSUMB :)
>
> We are very motivated about this and believe that this will be very useful
> for our students. We realize that we are asking for a bigger commitment and
> effort from you, but it is a one time investment to develop the components
> - usually can be duplicated multiple times with small tweaks, reaching a
> large group of students, who otherwise may not get such deep exposure.
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions. I am happy to talk with you
> if that would work better.
>
> Best,
> Sathya
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Katie Cunningham <kcunningham at csumb.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Shauna,
>>
>> I'm cc'ing Sathya Narayanan, faculty at CSUMB. He will be better able to
>> answer those sorts of questions :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Katie
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We're happy to talk about it.  My guess is that it will be too much work
>>> for either Asheesh or myself to take on, but there may be someone else in
>>> the OpenHatch community interested in leading it -- and it is possible that
>>> we'll be able to make time for Asheesh or myself to work on it, too.
>>>  Relevant to that decision is the question: What would be the out of class
>>> responsibilities expected of an instructor?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Katie Cunningham <kcunningham at csumb.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>
>>>> No problem. The idea is that someone from OpenHatch leads the class.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for discussing this new and different idea,
>>>>
>>>> Katie
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Katie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the delay in responding - I was away for the weekend.  I'll
>>>>> talk about this more with Asheesh during our weekly meeting tomorrow, but I
>>>>> do have some questions.  Most importantly: are you asking whether someone
>>>>> from OpenHatch is interested in leading the class, or whether we can help
>>>>> you lead such a class?
>>>>>
>>>>> best
>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OSCTC has been a topic of significant discussion recently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The major idea that has been discussed and which I want to present to
>>>>>> you is the incorporation of OSCTC into a one credit course taught at CSUMB.
>>>>>> A series of one credit courses involving hands-on technical topics is a new
>>>>>> initiative by Dr. Sathya Narayanan (CSUMB faculty). The idea is that
>>>>>> students meet for 2 full Saturdays (16 hours total) for face time with the
>>>>>> instructor and do homework or pre-class work of 25-30 hours outside of
>>>>>> class. The course instructor is paid a stipend. If this is something
>>>>>> OpenHatch is interested in, the spring semester could be a potential target
>>>>>> date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The advantages of this idea are that students are interacting with
>>>>>> open source in a more ongoing fashion, with results tied to an immediate
>>>>>> result (a grade). Of course, it may take more planning than a typical OSCTC
>>>>>> session. The first one of these courses is a one credit course about
>>>>>> Salesforce happening this semester. About 40 students are signed up,
>>>>>> including ~23 CSIT-In-3 students.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if this is something Openhatch is worth pursuing. Also
>>>>>> let me know if you have any questions or clarifications. I imagine that if
>>>>>> Openhatch is interested in the spring course, it probably makes sense to
>>>>>> scratch the fall OSCTC event to decrease workload.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just bumping this up - no rush, as we're still 2+ months out.  Did
>>>>>>> you meet with Prof Welch and, if so, any thoughts about how to proceed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great :) Prof. Joe Welch wants to discuss OSCTC next week, so after
>>>>>>>> that I'll have a better idea about the approach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That sounds great.  I'll put you down for the Saturday in November.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's plenty of time to plan since you've picked the November
>>>>>>>>> date, so please don't feel rushed to respond.  Reply at your convenience.
>>>>>>>>>  :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for moving the thread over Shauna :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I forgot to mention in the earlier email that the November
>>>>>>>>>> weekend would work best for us, since it gives our freshmen more time to be
>>>>>>>>>> exposed to CS. Several students go to church on Sunday (a student just
>>>>>>>>>> talked to me about making an attendance app for Sunday School :), so
>>>>>>>>>> Saturday is preferred.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More on the rest in a bit...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Katie
>>>>>>>>>>
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