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[Campus-hartnell-staff] planning another Open Source Comes to Campus event for the fall

Sathya Narayanan snarayanan at csumb.edu
Tue Sep 9 18:55:42 UTC 2014 

Thanks Katie!

Hi Shauna,

Thank you for considering our request. Katie explained the motivation for
the 1-unit course pretty well - to add my 2 cents, we think the content,
ideas and skills communicated at the OpenHatch workshop is very valuable.
We hope that adding the structure of a course to it will encourage/require
more of our students to actively engage in the topic. If we do this well,
it will be easy to offer it in future years with institutional support and
at that point it will easier to duplicate it in other institutions.

Now to your question: we totally understand the workload challenges and
will work with you to accommodate your situation. I would think the
following actions will be needed to offer such a course (we will be happy
to help you in all of these steps).

   1. Create a syllabus (sample syllabus here
   <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1loeavQABcBTUwkvxlq7k4DFYRkcU5vwqs7f-oBnn9eQ/edit?usp=sharing>)
   and associated schedule (here
   <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16YxypqN6FLVkgPRi1W3BmXOa-9YLsMCx_9E0W29e6uw/edit#gid=0>
   )
   2. Prep for the in class presentations/activities
   3. Create assignments/projects - number of assignments/project is up to
   you within the constraints of student learning and time commitment (up to
   24 hours of work outside the class for the students)
   4. Teach/coach first session
   5. Maintain some office hours (~2hrs/week) online (GHO or Skype) to be
   able to answer questions - we will have a TA available locally to take care
   quick/easier questions
   6. Respond to email questions from students
   7. Grade assignments if any - depending on the learning objectives, type
   of assignments - this effort could vary - we can get TA support for this.
   Or, it is also possible to setup the course as Pass/Fail rather than letter
   grades - to reduce the granularity of grading
   8. Teach/coach second session
   9. More office hours to support project work
   10. Final grading
   11. Enter grades

I apologize for the long email - wanted to provide a comprehensive picture.
There is reasonable amount of flexibility in how the course is structured.
I am leaving out a bit of a paperwork to apply and get hired as a lecturer
at CSUMB :)

We are very motivated about this and believe that this will be very useful
for our students. We realize that we are asking for a bigger commitment and
effort from you, but it is a one time investment to develop the components
- usually can be duplicated multiple times with small tweaks, reaching a
large group of students, who otherwise may not get such deep exposure.

Please let me know if you have any questions. I am happy to talk with you
if that would work better.

Best,
Sathya


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Katie Cunningham <kcunningham at csumb.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Shauna,
>
> I'm cc'ing Sathya Narayanan, faculty at CSUMB. He will be better able to
> answer those sorts of questions :)
>
> Best,
> Katie
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We're happy to talk about it.  My guess is that it will be too much work
>> for either Asheesh or myself to take on, but there may be someone else in
>> the OpenHatch community interested in leading it -- and it is possible that
>> we'll be able to make time for Asheesh or myself to work on it, too.
>>  Relevant to that decision is the question: What would be the out of class
>> responsibilities expected of an instructor?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Katie Cunningham <kcunningham at csumb.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>
>>> No problem. The idea is that someone from OpenHatch leads the class.
>>>
>>> Thanks for discussing this new and different idea,
>>>
>>> Katie
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Katie,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the delay in responding - I was away for the weekend.  I'll
>>>> talk about this more with Asheesh during our weekly meeting tomorrow, but I
>>>> do have some questions.  Most importantly: are you asking whether someone
>>>> from OpenHatch is interested in leading the class, or whether we can help
>>>> you lead such a class?
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> Shauna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Katie Cunningham <kcunningham at csumb.edu
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>>
>>>>> OSCTC has been a topic of significant discussion recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> The major idea that has been discussed and which I want to present to
>>>>> you is the incorporation of OSCTC into a one credit course taught at CSUMB.
>>>>> A series of one credit courses involving hands-on technical topics is a new
>>>>> initiative by Dr. Sathya Narayanan (CSUMB faculty). The idea is that
>>>>> students meet for 2 full Saturdays (16 hours total) for face time with the
>>>>> instructor and do homework or pre-class work of 25-30 hours outside of
>>>>> class. The course instructor is paid a stipend. If this is something
>>>>> OpenHatch is interested in, the spring semester could be a potential target
>>>>> date.
>>>>>
>>>>> The advantages of this idea are that students are interacting with
>>>>> open source in a more ongoing fashion, with results tied to an immediate
>>>>> result (a grade). Of course, it may take more planning than a typical OSCTC
>>>>> session. The first one of these courses is a one credit course about
>>>>> Salesforce happening this semester. About 40 students are signed up,
>>>>> including ~23 CSIT-In-3 students.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if this is something Openhatch is worth pursuing. Also let
>>>>> me know if you have any questions or clarifications. I imagine that if
>>>>> Openhatch is interested in the spring course, it probably makes sense to
>>>>> scratch the fall OSCTC event to decrease workload.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Katie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just bumping this up - no rush, as we're still 2+ months out.  Did
>>>>>> you meet with Prof Welch and, if so, any thoughts about how to proceed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great :) Prof. Joe Welch wants to discuss OSCTC next week, so after
>>>>>>> that I'll have a better idea about the approach.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That sounds great.  I'll put you down for the Saturday in November.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's plenty of time to plan since you've picked the November
>>>>>>>> date, so please don't feel rushed to respond.  Reply at your convenience.
>>>>>>>>  :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for moving the thread over Shauna :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I forgot to mention in the earlier email that the November weekend
>>>>>>>>> would work best for us, since it gives our freshmen more time to be exposed
>>>>>>>>> to CS. Several students go to church on Sunday (a student just talked to me
>>>>>>>>> about making an attendance app for Sunday School :), so Saturday is
>>>>>>>>> preferred.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More on the rest in a bit...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Katie
>>>>>>>>>
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