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[Campus-hartnell-staff] planning another Open Source Comes to Campus event for the fall

Shauna Gordon-McKeon shaunagm at gmail.com
Thu Oct 2 22:10:27 UTC 2014 

Would you be interested in writing a blog post about what you're looking
for?  We'd be happy to share it on the openhatch blog, and it would make a
good reference for us when reaching out to people.  Otherwise, if you could
write up a "blurb" or description that we could include in emails that'd be
great.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Sathya Narayanan <snarayanan at csumb.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Shauna,
>
> Thank you for the response! I understand.
>
> Yes, please try to reach out through your network to find anyone who might
> be interested. I would like to develop two 1-unit courses taught by
> industry professionals for spring 2015 to let our students explore new
> topics of learning - any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Sathya
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sathya,
>>
>> Sorry for taking so long to get back to you.  I think that right now we
>> just can't commit to doing this - I'm the only one who could reasonably
>> take it on, and I'm on the wrong coast and pretty busy already.  It's
>> possible that we'll make some decisions for 2015 that would facilitate
>> this, in terms of staffing and priorities, but we're just starting to have
>> those conversations.
>>
>> If you'd still like to run a course like this, even without us teaching
>> it, we can try to reach out through our network of volunteers and
>> colleagues to see if anyone could lead it.  And we're definitely up for
>> helping anyone who does take this on develop their approach.
>>
>> Thank you so much for the invitation!  It means a lot to us and we'd love
>> to keep brainstorming ways to add open source to the school's community and
>> curriculum.
>>
>> best
>> Shauna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Sathya Narayanan <snarayanan at csumb.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please see my responses inline:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - What are the time constraints in terms of when during the course of
>>>> the year these classes can be done?  Should the dates fall within the
>>>> confines of the academic semesters and if so, which ones?  (This will be
>>>> much more doable if we can time things not to conflict with our other
>>>> ongoing events.)
>>>>
>>> It is better if we can keep these classes within semester boundaries. We
>>> are thinking Spring 2015 right now - which would be from late January 2015
>>> to early May 2015. Managing the logistics of the course would be easier to
>>> do within the semester - university infrastructure operates relatively well
>>> within that.
>>>
>>> - What is the stipend amount?
>>>>
>>> I think, the stipend amount would be between $1200 and $1700 depending
>>> on the education and teaching experience of the instructor. I don't make
>>> the final decision, but I am reasonably sure of this range.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - When do we need to make a decision by?
>>>>
>>> By end of October will give us enough time to plan.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for taking the time to answer all of my questions.
>>>> Asheesh and I should be able to talk about this next week and come to a
>>>> decision soon after.
>>>>
>>> You are very welcome. Let me know if you have any other questions. Look
>>> forward to hearing your decision.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Sathya
>>>
>>>
>>>> ~ Shauna
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Sathya Narayanan <snarayanan at csumb.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are no restrictions. Motivation to space them out is to allow
>>>>> time for students to do more work before exploring advanced topics in the
>>>>> second session. It is also possible to arrange for two people to co-teach
>>>>> the course - with one person covering session 1 (introductory session) and
>>>>> another person covering session 2 (advanced).
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, if having the sessions together will help with
>>>>> offering the course, I think we can make it work, as long as we feel the
>>>>> learning objectives can be met.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Sathya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any restrictions on when the two full Saturdays can be?
>>>>>> Should they be at the beginning and end of the course, for instance?  This
>>>>>> affects whether I personally could teach it - I live on the other side of
>>>>>> the country and could probably not make two separate trips out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Sathya Narayanan <
>>>>>> snarayanan at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Katie!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for considering our request. Katie explained the
>>>>>>> motivation for the 1-unit course pretty well - to add my 2 cents, we think
>>>>>>> the content, ideas and skills communicated at the OpenHatch workshop is
>>>>>>> very valuable. We hope that adding the structure of a course to it will
>>>>>>> encourage/require more of our students to actively engage in the topic. If
>>>>>>> we do this well, it will be easy to offer it in future years with
>>>>>>> institutional support and at that point it will easier to duplicate it in
>>>>>>> other institutions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now to your question: we totally understand the workload challenges
>>>>>>> and will work with you to accommodate your situation. I would think the
>>>>>>> following actions will be needed to offer such a course (we will be happy
>>>>>>> to help you in all of these steps).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. Create a syllabus (sample syllabus here
>>>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1loeavQABcBTUwkvxlq7k4DFYRkcU5vwqs7f-oBnn9eQ/edit?usp=sharing>)
>>>>>>>    and associated schedule (here
>>>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16YxypqN6FLVkgPRi1W3BmXOa-9YLsMCx_9E0W29e6uw/edit#gid=0>
>>>>>>>    )
>>>>>>>    2. Prep for the in class presentations/activities
>>>>>>>    3. Create assignments/projects - number of assignments/project
>>>>>>>    is up to you within the constraints of student learning and time commitment
>>>>>>>    (up to 24 hours of work outside the class for the students)
>>>>>>>    4. Teach/coach first session
>>>>>>>    5. Maintain some office hours (~2hrs/week) online (GHO or Skype)
>>>>>>>    to be able to answer questions - we will have a TA available locally to
>>>>>>>    take care quick/easier questions
>>>>>>>    6. Respond to email questions from students
>>>>>>>    7. Grade assignments if any - depending on the learning
>>>>>>>    objectives, type of assignments - this effort could vary - we can get TA
>>>>>>>    support for this. Or, it is also possible to setup the course as Pass/Fail
>>>>>>>    rather than letter grades - to reduce the granularity of grading
>>>>>>>    8. Teach/coach second session
>>>>>>>    9. More office hours to support project work
>>>>>>>    10. Final grading
>>>>>>>    11. Enter grades
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I apologize for the long email - wanted to provide a comprehensive
>>>>>>> picture. There is reasonable amount of flexibility in how the course is
>>>>>>> structured. I am leaving out a bit of a paperwork to apply and get hired as
>>>>>>> a lecturer at CSUMB :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are very motivated about this and believe that this will be very
>>>>>>> useful for our students. We realize that we are asking for a bigger
>>>>>>> commitment and effort from you, but it is a one time investment to develop
>>>>>>> the components - usually can be duplicated multiple times with small
>>>>>>> tweaks, reaching a large group of students, who otherwise may not get such
>>>>>>> deep exposure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions. I am happy to talk
>>>>>>> with you if that would work better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Sathya
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm cc'ing Sathya Narayanan, faculty at CSUMB. He will be better
>>>>>>>> able to answer those sorts of questions :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're happy to talk about it.  My guess is that it will be too
>>>>>>>>> much work for either Asheesh or myself to take on, but there may be someone
>>>>>>>>> else in the OpenHatch community interested in leading it -- and it is
>>>>>>>>> possible that we'll be able to make time for Asheesh or myself to work on
>>>>>>>>> it, too.  Relevant to that decision is the question: What would be the out
>>>>>>>>> of class responsibilities expected of an instructor?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No problem. The idea is that someone from OpenHatch leads the
>>>>>>>>>> class.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for discussing this new and different idea,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Katie,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay in responding - I was away for the weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll talk about this more with Asheesh during our weekly meeting tomorrow,
>>>>>>>>>>> but I do have some questions.  Most importantly: are you asking whether
>>>>>>>>>>> someone from OpenHatch is interested in leading the class, or whether we
>>>>>>>>>>> can help you lead such a class?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OSCTC has been a topic of significant discussion recently.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The major idea that has been discussed and which I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> present to you is the incorporation of OSCTC into a one credit course
>>>>>>>>>>>> taught at CSUMB. A series of one credit courses involving hands-on
>>>>>>>>>>>> technical topics is a new initiative by Dr. Sathya Narayanan (CSUMB
>>>>>>>>>>>> faculty). The idea is that students meet for 2 full Saturdays (16 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>> total) for face time with the instructor and do homework or pre-class work
>>>>>>>>>>>> of 25-30 hours outside of class. The course instructor is paid a stipend.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If this is something OpenHatch is interested in, the spring semester could
>>>>>>>>>>>> be a potential target date.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The advantages of this idea are that students are interacting
>>>>>>>>>>>> with open source in a more ongoing fashion, with results tied to an
>>>>>>>>>>>> immediate result (a grade). Of course, it may take more planning than a
>>>>>>>>>>>> typical OSCTC session. The first one of these courses is a one credit
>>>>>>>>>>>> course about Salesforce happening this semester. About 40 students are
>>>>>>>>>>>> signed up, including ~23 CSIT-In-3 students.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if this is something Openhatch is worth pursuing.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also let me know if you have any questions or clarifications. I imagine
>>>>>>>>>>>> that if Openhatch is interested in the spring course, it probably makes
>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to scratch the fall OSCTC event to decrease workload.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just bumping this up - no rush, as we're still 2+ months out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you meet with Prof Welch and, if so, any thoughts about how to proceed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great :) Prof. Joe Welch wants to discuss OSCTC next week, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after that I'll have a better idea about the approach.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds great.  I'll put you down for the Saturday in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's plenty of time to plan since you've picked the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> November date, so please don't feel rushed to respond.  Reply at your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convenience.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Katie Cunningham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kcunningham at csumb.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for moving the thread over Shauna :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I forgot to mention in the earlier email that the November
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend would work best for us, since it gives our freshmen more time to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed to CS. Several students go to church on Sunday (a student just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talked to me about making an attendance app for Sunday School :), so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday is preferred.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More on the rest in a bit...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Katie
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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