[OH-Dev] [Peers] Rough sketch of products

[Nathan Yergler]

That's a super useful diagram, if nothing else to show just how much
is going on. I think the following sentence bears repeating:

> The most important things OpenHatch (the website) does, or could do, with
> regard to making in-person events like campus.OH work: a functioning,
> well-used Buildhelper; project-curated lists of bugs for newcomers (or the
> volunteer opportunities finder in the absence of such); and the training
> missions.

I don't see Buildhelper listed in Asheesh's list of products; is that
because you don't see it as a product, or because it's subsumed in
something else?

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Karen Rustad <karen.rustad at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Asheesh Laroia <asheesh at asheesh.org> wrote:
>>
>> To answer that, here is a quick summary of the "products" we currently
>> offer.
>>
>> 1 Campus outreach events
>>
>> 2 Volunteer opportunity finder
>>
>> 3 newcomer friendly event calendar
>>
>> 4 Project pages on the openhatch site
>>
>> 5 Diversity outreach events for meet up groups
>>
>> 6 Web forums within OpenHatch
>>
>> 7 Training missions
>
> Relevant to this discussion, and the second-level domain discussion in the
> OpenHatch devel meeting earlier today: tonight I made a giant high-level
> service map of all the stuff OpenHatch does and what parts of it could be
> spun off / what APIs or information transfer would go between different
> services were they separated. It's located here:
> http://www.littlegreenriver.com/stuffs/OH-services-chart.png
>
> It's a mess, because I made it in Twiddla (only slightly cleaned up from
> http://www.twiddla.com/614060). Maybe I will make a cleaner version later.
> Or not.
>
> Some random thoughts I have looking at it:
>
> Interestingly, only OH-main, project pages, training missions, and forums
> really need login integration -- and even then, most of their functions
> could be used sans login. The volunteer opportunity finder totally doesn't
> need it.
>
> I was never especially sold on the importance / necessity of the OH forums,
> and after making this chart, I feel that way with more certainty. They're
> not just not used, they're not integrated. I'm not sure how we'd change
> that.
>
> We use lot more outside data/input than might be obvious. Our interfaces for
> getting said outside material, as a rule, are lacking. (See: the flaky
> non-standardized methodology for adding bugtrackers; the nonexistent methods
> for writing new missions)
>
> The most important things OpenHatch (the website) does, or could do, with
> regard to making in-person events like campus.OH work: a functioning,
> well-used Buildhelper; project-curated lists of bugs for newcomers (or the
> volunteer opportunities finder in the absence of such); and the training
> missions.
>
> Making sense of the events ecosystem is hard. There's no actual central
> website for two out of the three event types that we sponsor--yet they're
> not only supposed to feed into events.OH, they're supposed to also get used
> (by type, excluding other sorts of events!) by other parts of the sprawling
> OH nega-empire. Eeesh.
>
> The Starling bounties don't really have a home anywhere (except our wiki
> :P). Maybe we should merge them with the idea of hand-picked bitesize bugs
> on project pages? They're pretty similar concepts.
>
> I'm not certain yet if project pages could be usefully spun off from
> OH-main. I do think that the training missions and the volopps finder can be
> spun off reasonably easily, and probably should be. Events.OH and campus.OH,
> of course, are already pretty separate--what they need is not more
> decentralization but better integration (via an API, preferably).
>
> Note: A number of the links between services on this map do not actually
> exist yet, or exist but work poorly. I guess this is a ideal-case scenario
> map.
>
> -- Karen
>
>
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