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[Devel] forum research

Paul Bakulich paulbakulich at gmail.com
Mon Jun 20 01:50:00 UTC 2011


Hi Mark & Asheesh,

It's great that you've managed to sort through forum options...

My take on it...
How might we integrate vanilla's/FUDForum's mysql database to reduce
redundant user info (could we cross-database link)?

If FUD would really be better I don't see any problem in making it look less
dated, in fact just integrating it with OH's style should make it look less
so, and be a top priority!

If we are gonna go to a PHP-based app for this, which current OpenHatch
users will commit to be interested in maintaining it, and are skilled enough
to do code review for it?

Could we also get a OpenHatch user vote, a mass-email (please help us work
out what is THE best forum for our community)?

Paul Bakulich


On 20 June 2011 13:30, Mark Freeman <mark at timewasted.net> wrote:

> As a side note, here is a recent interview done with the CEO of the
> company behind Vanilla.  My observations about vanilla are right in
> line with what he is saying.
>
> http://vanillaforums.com/blog/philosophy/mark-osullivan-techzulu-interview/
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Mark Freeman <mark at timewasted.net> wrote:
> > OK, I've done the install and updated the notes.   FUD does appear to
> > have the slightly better feature set (it has mailing list
> > integration), although they are practically neck and neck on this
> > front. When it comes down to looks and "looking like it is part of the
> > OH site", Vanilla still has my vote.
> >
> > It's a real toss up. In the end, regardless of the features, I like
> > the look and 'feel' of Vanilla better.  FUD looks dated.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Mark Freeman <mark at timewasted.net>
> wrote:
> >> I apologize as I must have forgotten about FUDForum being mentioned
> >> before.  I just took a quick look at the features available and it
> >> looks quite good.  I will try installing it now and seeing how it
> >> looks.  I'll update everyone with more details shortly.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Asheesh Laroia <asheesh at asheesh.org>
> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Mark Freeman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Good morning everyone.  I apologize for being unable to make it to
> >>>> yesterday's meeting, as Saturday afternoons tend to be a little tough
> for me
> >>>> to make.  I was hoping to be able to get on and update everyone as to
> my
> >>>> work thus far.
> >>>>
> >>>> I finished looking at a few options and made my notes and
> recommendations
> >>>> available here: http://openhatch.org/wiki/Choosing_a_forum. As
> expected, the
> >>>> options really came down to the first few packages that were
> recommended
> >>>> during last week's meeting.  I was especially impressed with Vanilla,
> as my
> >>>> recommendation shows.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hopefully this will trigger some discussion so we can make a decision
> on
> >>>> how to proceed.
> >>>
> >>> Mark, thanks for working so much on this!
> >>>
> >>> I notice FUDForum didn't make the review; is there a reason for that?
> >>>
> >>> Assuming that FUDForum shouldn't make it, here's how I see it:
> >>>
> >>> * Vanilla looks great visually, out of the box, and is designed to be
> an
> >>> excellent forum. (I've actually been kind of in love-at-a-distance with
> it
> >>> since I first heard of it in 2005ish.)
> >>>
> >>> * If we install GroupServer, so far, it seems that I'll be the one to
> >>> maintain it. (If it's even installable!) I'm not particularly
> interested in
> >>> personally being the one to maintain more stuff on the OpenHatch
> server(s).
> >>> If we drop Mailman, I might possibly be up for it.
> >>>
> >>> What I think is that, for now, we should give up on the dream of solid
> >>> integration between the web forum and email lists. Then we can use
> Vanilla
> >>> for at least two forums: (1) "User help" (e.g., "I am stuck on this
> training
> >>> mission!"), and (2) OpenHatch Publicity chatter.
> >>>
> >>> For now, I think everyone on [OH-Publicity] is also on [Devel], so I'll
> ask
> >>> here:
> >>>
> >>> If (for example) we move the Publicity group to be a web board, would
> that
> >>> be the kind of thing that would *stop* anyone who is involved now from
> >>> contributing? (Note that with Vanilla, you will be able to susbscribe
> to
> >>> receive email updates about a thread or a board automatically. You just
> >>> can't hit "reply" in the mail client.)
> >>>
> >>> If not, then I think the best next step is to install Vanilla, figure
> out
> >>> how to get the login integration going, and then try using it for
> Publicity
> >>> chatter, and also figure out other uses for it and open it up to that.
> >>>
> >>> How does that sound?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> -- Asheesh.
> >>>
> >>> http://asheesh.org/
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