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[Ccsf-campus-staff] bringing Open Source Comes to Campus back to City College of San Francisco

Katherine Moloney kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu
Mon Jan 13 20:10:28 UTC 2014 

tl;dr: Feedback on workshop curriculum, skip to the last point for the most
important discussion related to CCSF.

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Not sure if I should start this as a separate thread on the OSCTC Planning
list, but I’d like to talk about the ‘Open Source Comes To Campus’ event
goals & curriculum.  I applaud the long term goals of teaching the tools of
open source & introducing new users, community members and eventual
contributors to open source projects.



I think City College of San Francisco, as a community college, is an
excellent example of a place where OpenHatch will encounter low-skill,
low-experience event attendees…as well as some who have been hacking, on
irc, participating in open source since they were in middle school.



I think both streams of the people – the low-skill/experience and the high
– are important to the health of open source as the transition from low to
high is one that everyone goes through.



I look to Railsbridge/Bridgetroll from the Ruby community:



http://docs.railsbridge.org/docs/

http://www.bridgetroll.org/



…as a sample of something like what OpenHatch is trying to create with
‘Open Source Comes To Campus’ and its ‘Training Missions’ – online
curriculums that anyone anywhere at any time can use (and imagine you or
other are working on open source project discovery sites [I see ‘Find A
Project’ -- https://openhatch.org/search/ -- but I’m curious about any
other portals that are worth sharing with our membership too]).



Looking at the current OSCTC curriculum:



https://openhatch.org/wiki/Open_Source_Comes_to_Campus/Curriculum



…here is what I remember about the last time we ran this event (and I still
need to find the official debrief notes & survey results...would be nice if
Asheesh could post a link to these):



> We ran this as a one day workshop.

> Having a separate Installfest night several days before the workshop
would allow some of the low-skill/low-experience folks to be ready for the
one day workshop (we did not do this last time, but will this time -- no
OpenHatch folks need attend this, though you would be welcome).

> Introducing irc first/early worked really well as a bit of the culture of
irc – the joking, the running commentary, the fun, the help – was
communicated.  I especially liked how links were shared via irc, so that it
couldn’t be ignored by those who weren’t comfortable watching it &
listening to a presenter at the same time.

> irc, git, version control and hands-on practices with these basics were
important for us.  I can see how some might choose to track the workshop as
the Railsbridge folks do here --
http://www.bridgetroll.org/events/75/levels -- however, for this particular
instance of the OSCTC at CCSF, we won’t because we want the more
experienced members to help the less experienced, and this will help build
our local club community.

> the career panel – open source contributors talking about their path thru
open source, how this interacts with their companies, their careers, their
hiring, their side projects – is a really popular section

> the history and ethics of free software is a really essential piece, to
transmit the culture of open source to new entrants




> the next part of the curriculum jumps to making open source
contributions, which feels like a big jump.  For example, these are the
bite-sized (i.e. ‘good for newcomers; relatively easy and rewarding to
fix’) using the Java language (which is one of the core curriculum
languages here at CCSF in addition to C++):



https://openhatch.org/search/?q=&toughness=bitesize&language=Java#



…in some ways it seems better to make a connection with an open source
community vs a drive-by contribution.  Many of our most experienced club
members don’t make code contributions directly to the projects they follow
– they host archives, answer questions on irc, test new code, submit or
comment on bug reports with the details of what machines they have
replicated the problems on – these are folks who spend hours per day, but
have yet to make a commit.



>From my limited perspective, I wonder if there are some intermediate
modules:



    + introducing folks to open source alternatives -- http://www.osalt.com/ --
pointing out the common software they probably already use, encouraging
them to install and use more such software

    + introducing folk to the open source communities for the projects that
they use all the time, discussing the things they like and don’t like about
particular open source software, showing how to navigate the common issue
trackers, the communication channels – blogs, list archives, issues
trackers – basically how to getting the working life of a particular open
source project



I think intermediate goals are to use, to follow, to participate in the
life/dialogue of the community.



What do you think about this?



Katherine


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Katherine Moloney
<kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu>wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> 1) I'd like to add some more folks from CCSF to the
> ccsf-campus-staff at lists.openhatch.org list (I got their permission & have
> CC'ed them here):
>
> Jason Hoang (the new president of CCSF Coders)    jasonhoang7 at gmail.com
> Wilson Mateo    glm-wilson at hotmail.com
> Chuck Griffin      thomas.charles.griffin at gmail.com
>
> ...I'll let them read the archives of
>
> Open Source Comes To Campus - Planning:
> http://lists.openhatch.org/pipermail/osctc-planning/
> OpenHatch Events:  http://lists.openhatch.org/pipermail/events/
>
> ...and let them decide for themselves if they want to subscribe to those
> lists (I've subscribed our student club's email -- coders at mail.ccsf.edu-- to these lists, so future club members can stay up on OpenHatch).
>
> Plus, (for Jason, Wilson, Chuck, Rye and Craig), here are the archives of
> the ccsf-campus-staff list:
>
> http://lists.openhatch.org/pipermail/ccsf-campus-staff/
>
> 2) I don't know the etiquette of replying to the lists AND to the
> individual messages.  For example, above I hit REPLY-ALL to reply to both
> the osctc-planning-request and ccsf-campus-staff lists...and of course,
> this picked up Shauna & Larissa's individual emails.  In the future, I plan
> to drop osctc-planning-request and all the individual emails, and only
> write ccsf-campus-staff.  Please advise if this is incorrect.  [Once we
> settle on a date, I'll make sure this gets sent to the
> osctc-planning-request list, so our date can be factored in the planning of
> other OSCTC events.
>
> 3) Speaking of dates, the availability for Saturdays in the space we used
> last time is 3/8, 3/15, 3/22, 4/12,4/19, 4/26, 5/3, or 5/10.  Our
> mid-terms are between the 3/8 and 3/15, so I was wondering how Saturday
> 3/22 fits into the OpenHatch calendar.  I still have to discuss fully this
> with our club officers, and we can look around on campus for an alternate
> site to host any Feb weekends OpenHatch may be available (Sats 2/1, 2/8, or
> 2/22 being the only possibilities that would work for us).  However, I hope
> in the end Sat 3/22 works for everyone.
>
> Please reply with your thoughts,
>
> Katherine
> City College of San Francisco
>
> CCSF Coders:  www.ccsf.edu/coders
> CCSF Linux Users Groups:  www.ccsf.edu/lug
> CCSF Women Who Code:  (new club, so no website yet...but will eventually
> be reachable at www.ccsf.edu/wwc)
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That's great, Larissa!
>>
>> One thing we've been focusing on more over the last few months is
>> building relationships between attendees and specific projects.  To that
>> end, we're always on the lookout for open source projects which are willing
>> to do the work of:
>>
>> - making sure their documentation/setup is golden
>> - identifying specific tasks for newcomers to work on
>> - generally being friendly and helpful towards newcomers, during the
>> event as well as ideally afterwards
>>
>> We can help with all of the following, and are glad to, but it's also
>> something that the project has to want and work towards.
>>
>> This is all a very long-winded way of saying that we'd love to work with
>> Mozilla folks so that attendees can contribute to Mozilla at this event and
>> others.  :)
>>
>> - Shauna
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Larissa Shapiro <
>> larissa.shapiro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd love to come and help and/or coordinate some other Mozilla folks to
>>> do so... I'll pay attention to this thread and do all I can to support.
>>>
>>> Larissa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Katherine Moloney <
>>> kmoloney at mail.ccsf.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Shauna,
>>>>
>>>> City College of San Francisco is definitely interested in a repeat
>>>> workshop this Spring 2014 semester.  Our first officers meeting is this
>>>> Saturday, and by next week should know which Saturdays we could use the
>>>> same space as last time.  Everyone is looking forward to it.
>>>>
>>>> We hope to get on your calendar in the Jan or Feb before everyone's
>>>> homework gets too heavy.  Let us know which weekends are taken already.
>>>>  And I'll get back to you will new contact to add to the ccsf-campus-staff
>>>> mailing list.  Plus our international Fulbright scholars program has
>>>> offered to fund events just like this, so already have the lead on funds.
>>>>
>>>> What's the current honorarium that you'd like?  I'll like to find a way
>>>> to get you the most possible (within our limited community college means).
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Katherine Moloney
>>>> www.ccsf.edu/coders
>>>> coders at mail.ccsf.edu
>>>>
>>>> p.s. On the campus.openhatch.org site, I see we're listed as
>>>> 'Community College of San Francisco' but it should be 'City College of San
>>>> Francisco.'
>>>>
>>>> p.p.s. We'll be co-sponsoring again with the CCSF Linux Users Group,
>>>> but also the new Women Who Code @ CCSF, so I hope we can increase the
>>>> percentage of women participating this time (though we did have 20% women
>>>> last time).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello wonderful volunteers and staffers from the last event!
>>>>>
>>>>> After we ran our Open Source Comes to Campus event at CCSF last
>>>>> summer, a number of you were enthusiastic about holding another event
>>>>> during the school year.  Well, we’re excited to make that happen this
>>>>> spring.  But we need your help to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need someone(s) local to take on the role of lead organizer.  If
>>>>> you go to our website <http://campus.openhatch.org>, you can find the
>>>>> details of what’s involved in running a full day event, and how we can
>>>>> support you.  Depending on the date chosen, Asheesh should be able to
>>>>> physically attend, and I’ll be available remotely.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you’re interested in helping to organize, let us know!
>>>>>
>>>>> best
>>>>>
>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>
>>>>>
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