[Campus-neiu-staff] Running an Open Source Comes to Campus Event at NEIU

Tue Feb 4 23:06:19 UTC 2014

We recommend doing a save-the-date type email to CS department and CS club
lists as soon as you have a date, then doing a full on publicity push about
3 weeks before the event.  Then a reminder to signed-up students 4-5 days
before the event.

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Iacobelli, Francisco
<f-iacobelli at neiu.edu>wrote:

> Yes. Let me coordinate with meg and we can email you. By the way, how much
> time in advance do you think we should start advertising for the event?
>
> Francisco Iacobelli
> Assistant professor
>
> Computer Science
> Northeastern Illinois University
> http://fid.cl
>
> On Feb 4, 2014 4:51 PM, "Shauna Gordon-McKeon" <shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are people interested in an in-person meeting with Meg, and/or a remote
>> meeting with me?  I'm happy either way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Meg's right - it is a bit involved to explain over email.  I'm also
>>> happy to arrange a meeting over something like google hangouts to discuss
>>> it that way.
>>>
>>> Rachel - we're happy to do it on a Sunday, we've done these events on
>>> Sundays many times.
>>>
>>> re: sign-ups: we usually create a publicity site with an embedded google
>>> form that students can use to sign up.  (Here's the most recent example:
>>> http://arizona.openhatch.org/)
>>>
>>> We've had a couple past events get canceled because we waited too long
>>> to book a room, so we generally like to do that first (and not wait to see
>>> how many people show up).  If you can book one room, with the plan to
>>> change to another if needed/possible based on sign-ups, that's fine by me,
>>> but we want to know we definitely have a space.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM, meg ford <meg387 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It might be worth it for us to schedule a meeting at NEIU so I can walk
>>>> everyone through the process of doing a workshop. It's a little involved to
>>>> explain over email. Sorry I wasn't able to come to the meeting last week, I
>>>> didn't know it was re-scheduled until the last minute and I was in a work
>>>> meeting at the time and couldn't leave.
>>>>
>>>> Meg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Adler, Rachel <r-adler at neiu.edu>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I see, Shauna.
>>>>> A weekend would be better in that case, since we probably do not have
>>>>> too many mentors on our own.
>>>>> A Saturday could work, but we do have other activities going on at
>>>>> that time on campus.
>>>>> Would a Sunday work for you guys?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have a system already in place where students can register for
>>>>> the event?  After people sign-up we can decide on which room to reserve
>>>>> based on the approximate number of people we think will attend.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are two main issues with running an event during the day on a
>>>>>> week day.  First, it may be difficult for students to attend the whole
>>>>>> event.  We can provide materials for students to go through on their own
>>>>>> time, so they can cover the material the night before, or at the event when
>>>>>> they arrive, but it still adds a burden to the people running the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which leads to the second issue: it will be much harder to find
>>>>>> volunteers during the 9-5 week day.  We've run one event during a weekday
>>>>>> (Rutgers, on 10/22/13).  We had 3 mentors, including myself, and about 30
>>>>>> students.  It went pretty well, but I wouldn't recommend that kind of
>>>>>> staff:student ratio when no one involved has run an OSCTC event before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a weekday is the only time that works for you, I think you can
>>>>>> still run a great event, but you'd probably want to keep it fairly small,
>>>>>> aiming for 10-20 instead of our usual 25-35.  How many mentors do you think
>>>>>> you could find among NEIU's staff and graduate students?  We'd be unlikely
>>>>>> to get more than 1-2 people (if that) who could take time off of work to
>>>>>> come be mentors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Adler, Rachel <r-adler at neiu.edu>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think the event can take place on Wednesday, March 5 from
>>>>>>> 9:30 - 4p.m?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds great.  Looking forward to hearing back from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Adler, Rachel <r-adler at neiu.edu>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are meeting tomorrow at noon to discuss.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any further thoughts on when you'd like to hold this event, and
>>>>>>>>>> if you'd prefer to do a short event (one evening night) or a full event
>>>>>>>>>> (full day on a weekend day, or two weekend evenings)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We'd be thrilled if you wanted to open up the event to all
>>>>>>>>>>> Chicago-area students.  We'd also be enthusiastic about prioritizing
>>>>>>>>>>> outreach and registration for women and other underrepresented groups.
>>>>>>>>>>>  (The UIC event was for women-identified people only.)  But as the hosts
>>>>>>>>>>> and lead organizers, it's up to you how you want to approach the event.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:18 PM, meg ford <meg387 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The UIC event was also open to students from other Chicago area
>>>>>>>>>>>> schools who wanted to attend, I'm assuming this event would be the same, is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that correct, Shauna?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A typical event for us is a full day long, with tutorials in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the morning covering open source communication tools (issue trackers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists, IRC) and a contributions workshop in the afternoon, where
>>>>>>>>>>>>> students are introduced to welcoming open source projects and get started
>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning about the project and making contributions.  We like to also have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a career panel as well so students can get a sense of what open source
>>>>>>>>>>>>> career options there are, how current community members got involved, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> open source opportunities there currently are for them (Google Summer of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code, Outreach Project for Women, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've split this up into two evenings before.  If you wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do that, I'd say the main issue is making sure that students are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> available both nights.  Otherwise it can be an issue having a third of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attendees needing to catch up while the other two thirds are ready to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going.  We've not condensed down to a single evening before, but we'd be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to talk about how we might do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as time to organize, you'll probably want at least 2-3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks to do publicity, communicate with attendees, and find volunteers.  We
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually aim to have a month or more of planning before an event, but have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pulled off events with only about two weeks to go.  We don't recommend it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Adler, Rachel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would a Tuesday work?  How much time in advance would we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to organize? What would the day consist of?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's wonderful to have you all on board.  I've just created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mailing list for the event, which we can use to stay coordinated without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having to do a ton of cc-ing.  I've added all of you - it should be easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsubscribe if you decide you don't want to be involved in the planning,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but if you run into any trouble doing so, just email me and I can remove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next step is to pick a date and location.  As I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned before, you can use this checklist<https://openhatch.org/wiki/OSCTC_space_checklist> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find an appropriate space.  We're quite flexible regarding dates, the main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraint is that we'd like to not have any events on the same day as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yours so we can focus our attention on supporting you remotely. We're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally enthusiastic about day-long, weekend events but other options are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very much possible if that's what you prefer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Adler, Rachel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The NEIU ACM Chapter is happy to get on board and help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrange.  I have added two of the club officers to this email thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a pleasure to virtually meet all of you.  Meg, thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the introductions!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our website <http://campus.openhatch.org/> provides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details (and links to more details!) about how to run an event, but here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the first few steps:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - You folks pick a date for the event, and find a space to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> host it.  You can use this checklist<https://openhatch.org/wiki/OSCTC_space_checklist> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find an appropriate space.  We're quite flexible regarding dates, the main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constraint is that we'd like to not have any events on the same day as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yours so we can focus our attention on supporting you remotely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I'll make you a mailing list that we organizers can use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to coordinate the event.  Whoever your lead organizers are will be made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admins to the list, and additional people can be added as they get involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - You send out a brief save-the-date email to the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important mailing lists (usually CS department, WiCS, ACM type lists).  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save the date email can invite those already experienced with open source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get involved as organizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I'll make a copy of this organizational folder<https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B4HP1ey91UqPb1RrN25YOFA4V3c>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and from there we can split up the tasks inside.  The event
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning overview<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HncyXIuWBklRJV07wFMUstdg2g6nIMp52ZLZWLSuCGQ/edit>document within the folder goes over all the steps in more detail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've done our best to document every step of the process,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but we totally support local organizers such as yourselves customizing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process if you think that'll work better for your campus.  We figured we'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> err on the side of providing too much guidance.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking forward to working with all of you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Iacobelli, Francisco <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f-iacobelli at neiu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Shauna,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to host Open Source Comes to Campus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know how we can help make this happen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:02 PM, meg ford <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meg387 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shauna, Prof. Iacobelli, and Prof. Adler,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shauna, meet two of my professors from NEIU. Prof.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iacobelli is my advisor, and Prof. Adler is the faculty advisor for the ACM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chapter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shauna is an organizer for Open Hatch, an organization
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that runs workshops to introduce newcomers to Open Source. Shauna and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were in contact last Fall when she and Asheesh Laroia were organizing an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Comes to Campus event for women at UIC [1]. I mentioned to her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Prof. Iacobelli had expressed interest in having NEIU host an Open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hatch event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know how I can help as things move forward! Last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time several of the women from the Chicago Python Workshop were involved in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the event so I can reach out to them if we confirm that an event is a go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Adler, I do not have the email address for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> student who is head of the ACM group; if you have a chance would you mind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding him to the conversation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]http://chicago.openhatch.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shaunagm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Meg,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We talked a bit last fall when you helped us run an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Comes to Campus event at UIC.  At the time you mentioned that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your advisor was interested in running an event at NEIU.  We'd love to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the two of you to make that happen!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neither Asheesh nor myself would be able to come out to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chicago to run the event in person, so we'd need someone(s) local to take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the role of lead organizer.  If you go to our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website <http://campus.openhatch.org>, you can find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the details of what's involved in running a full day event, and how we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support you.  We had a wonderful team of mentors in Chicago last time, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got no doubt we can find enough volunteers to run another great event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  And of course I'll be available remotely before, during and after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think!  And please do forward this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email along to your advisor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shauna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco Iacobelli, Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northeastern Illinois University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5500 North St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: (773) 442 4728
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f-iacobelli at neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fid.cl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel F. Adler, Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northeastern Illinois University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5500 North St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cs.neiu.edu/~radler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  www.neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rachel F. Adler, Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northeastern Illinois University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5500 North St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cs.neiu.edu/~radler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  www.neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Rachel F. Adler, Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>> Northeastern Illinois University
>>>>>>>>> 5500 North St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625
>>>>>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>> http://cs.neiu.edu/~radler
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  www.neiu.edu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Rachel F. Adler, Assistant Professor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>>> Northeastern Illinois University
>>>>>>> 5500 North St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625
>>>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu
>>>>>>> http://cs.neiu.edu/~radler
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>>>>>
>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>> Northeastern Illinois University
>>>>> 5500 North St. Louis Avenue, Chicago, IL 60625
>>>>> r-adler at neiu.edu
>>>>> http://cs.neiu.edu/~radler
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